UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROBLEMThere are only two things, that can cause black face issue (most common problem with NPCs overhauls) - ESP conflict and wrong load order. Look at the column to the right, and see what mod it comes from. Page 30 of 37 - Pandorables NPCs - Dawnguard - posted in File topics: In response to post #76017363. MO will have overwritten the files in any mods that were enabled at the time. Pandorable's NPCs replaces Elenwen in the list of NPCs as well. e.g. Page 1 of 2 - Black Face When Using Any NPC Replacer in SSE - posted in Skyrim Mod Troubleshooting: I am astonished how I seem to be the only person that has this problem. So Why dont the mods work together ? Just saying since i haven't seen any mention of it and its usually the overlooked simple problems that tend to get missed. So to fix it I looked which mod could be responsible for that. I tried regenerating their facegens but I still get dark faces for a handful of NPCs. I get that dark face is a common problem, but in my case, black face occurs literally in an empty load order. There shouldn't be any leftover files from NMM, Vortex or manual installs. I have that mod loaded last in the load order, and I've reinstalled the facegen files in case they were overwritten, and I still have the same problem. I can see from your Bijin screenshot that Ysolda does have the dark face bug and that her face shape is wrong, but her hair is correct. Any time I use any NPC face replacer, I get black face. You need to: If that's all fine, then you can debug dark face this way: If you want to change the order of NPC mods, then you can change it on the left pane. With Bijin, it should be pretty obvious if they're wrong. I first noticed this with Aela the Huntress. If you know the race (however identifiable with the console), just copy the textures from: Skyrim data folder> textures> actors> character> female and drop into Skyrim data folder> textures> actors> character> female> race NPC. IN THE GUIDE: It can also happen for the lack of FaceGen files, when someone forget to install a core appearance mod (like WICO). Both are really easy to fix.IN THE GUIDE: It can also happen for the lack of FaceGen files, when someone forget to install a core appearance mod (like WICO).ESP conflictsIn this example, we have two mods: AI Overhaul, which edits NPCs AI packages and Bijin AIO, which change appearance of some NPCs. Also, you DO know you need to install other mods for Bijin AIO to work yes? Make sure that the order of anything affecting NPCs matches between your left pane (mods - specifically for this purpose, the BSAs) and right pane (plugins). Seems like Wico and Ordinary Women work fine in an empty load order. Pandorable's NPCs Toccata as Elisif BijinAIO I cannot confirm anything on but Pandorable's NPCs was made for Bijin and body textures. I think the real issue here is trying to figure out how to get facegen data loaded properly. If you have the ESP for Bijin active, but the FaceGen meshes are missing or can't be seen by the game, then you'll get dark face. You need to make sure that the install order reflects your load order, otherwise your game will load the wrong facegen files for the affected characters. The rule is that the FaceGen meshes and ESP must match. If you've already done Ctrl+F4 in the CK and you ran the CK from MO, then you may need to reinstall your NPC mods. I disabled his *ss and no more blackface. Black-Briar Ladies is another version of two ladies from this mod and you cant have these two mods without overriding . Install hundreds of mods with the click of a button. Ive tried everything - clearing conflicts in SSEdit, Refreshing every NPC in the game/mod with F4 on Creation kit, placing all the NPC overhauls at the bottom of the . Did you set up Bijin AIO correctly? Or words to that effect. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This tells me that it's not loading the FaceGen mesh from a different mod. Edit: Alright, I did some experimenting. I am astonished how I seem to be the only person that has this problem. It's literally giving me blackface on its own with no other mods installed. Suggestion: Nexus should include a warning button for Sound Record Distributor - An SKSE framework which allows [Discussion] I made an SKSE plugin. Isn't binvalidateolderfiles obsolete in Skyrim? The powerful open-source mod manager from Nexus Mods. See here for an example screenshot. Correct Load Order and Priority list (right and left panel) - no black face bug. If I use nothing but Bijin for example, it's black face. The Data tab on the right side shows all of the files that the game sees. For some reason, it's not matching with her NPC record. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The CK will only rebuild the faces from the face data in the ESP (morph sliders, eyes, brows, hair, etc.). There are really only 2 Mods doing anything with the npc's. Could it be that these mods have other mod requirements I'm unaware of? I am using MO2, I've been using mods such as Bijin AIO and Pandorable. Can you post a screenshot with just one of the Bijin mods (not AIO) active? Maybe they're in the wrong directory somehow. Why are you exporting? The mod that is causing the black face is Pandorable's NPC's Dawnguard. 2 days I struggled. Also, you can toggle ENB on and off with Shift+F12 (usually) to see if that's the problem. Pandorable's NPCs - Males Pandorable's NPCs - Males 2 Pandorable's Initiates Pandorable's Small Replacers AIO (requires and includes Shield-Sisters, Lethal Ladies, Warrior Women, Black-Briar Ladies, Brelyna, Frea, Serana, Valerica, Marvellous Miners, Pandorable's Heroes of Sovngarde, Devoted Dames) Want more? Not sure what's up with that. This was loaded with nothing else in the load order btw. Sometimes you can tell which head mesh it's trying to use, or if it's not using any. In the Data tab, navigate to: meshes\character\FaceGenData\FaceGeom\Skyrim.esm\0001A696.NIF. It's worth it though because between Ordinary Women, the 3 Pandorable's and the 3 Bijins you have pretty much ever major female NPC covered, also can give loot a rule to put it after as well so it doesn't mess with it :D, Yeah you can do it by going to the plugin (three dots on the right) > edit metadata > load after > (enter plugin name). Exporting doesn't always fix faces, since the FaceGen meshes (NIF) might be custom-made. Pandorable's NPCs - Dawnguard Started by Site Bot , . Why? :). First of all its only a few female NPC's that are affected. An NPC overhaul with the goal to enhance some of the female NPCs while staying true to their original character. I have never seen anyone get black face in that circumstance. Dark Theme is now available in Community Applications! Either hide the plugins in the mod or disable them in the Plugins tab on the right. It even says on the Mod Page of Pandorable's that they are compatible. Look for the filename that we specified in step 2. The Northern Experience - Skyrim Modding Guide, Fixes for conflicts when using NPCs Overhauls. We are Reddit's primary hub for all things modding, from troubleshooting for beginners to creation of mods by experts. Also, that the hair and body textures are installed correctly. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Thank YOU very, very much! One of the custom NPCs is my follower, and when I try to dismiss him to hopefully bring up the AFT options, he just refuses to leave my service. Check out my list of NPC overhauls. And I have done those instructions. I've actually tried just manually installing these mods and it still crops up. I installed Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks, (a fan made improvment of AFT with the original creator's permission), after installing Interesting NPCs. . If it's not there, then make sure that Bijin Warmaidens is enabled on the left side. Cleaning does nothing. The npc in question is the vampire Sybille the court wizard in Solitude. They do help. Black Face Bug with Pandorable's NPC and Bijin Series I am fairly new to modding and have just finished modding my Game. https://steamuserima3ED535174EC5D3/. Privacy Policy. Edit: It didn't work. Spoiler ShawnDriscoll wrote: Beleval and Ingjard are untouched? That depends on the overhaul. And yeah, I've started a lot of new games. It doesn't matter. Thanks for posting the pictures. I've tried your method with looking for the ID in data, but I'm not exactly sure if I get the process you want me to try. Is it possible that this black face occurs because of some ENB or Skyrim.ini setting Im unaware of? Scroll over to the right column to see which mod is the last to change it. Cookie Notice Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Are you starting a new game to test this each time? The main NPC replacer, Dawnguard and Dragonborn are all USLEEP versions. OMG you have no idea how grateful I am. Not black face, but it's clearly far off from what they're supposed to look like in game. Now after playing for a few hours I've encountered some black faces. Have you cleaned out your MO Overwrites folder? Then Ctrl+F4. When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. All of them give me black face. I mean, it's not like taking out USSEP made it go away. what other mods are touching the npcs from replacer overhaul mod? You can check this by loading all your mods in. Keep in mind that loose BSAs load after packed, so i f you aren't sure what is loose/packed and you are using MO2, you can see exactly which data records will load into your game by . I can't think of any INI settings that could cause it. 2 days of missing hair texture for Bijin NPCs, missing hair textures and blackfaces as I tried to fix it myself. Attempting to remove unwanted NPC records from FFAIO still gives a dark face bug to those NPCs, even if Pandorable is the only mod changing that NPC's record. For more information, please see our Some NPC replacers may be contained in BSA files, but loose files will overwrite them, and Bijin definitely has loose files. If you check your Plugins tab, is Bijin Wives.esp enabled there? Yet for whatever reason, I still get problems with Bijin and Pandorable as well as Better Men and Male NPC overhaul. . Install all of Bijin Warmaidens, NPCs, and Wives. However, the ESPs should be sorted to match in the Plugins tab. For instance, the Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch shouldn't change any faces, yet it contains many FaceGen meshes because of fixes to NPCs. The thing is it's any face overhaul, not just Bijin. Any change to an NPC record has the potential to cause the dark face bug. You can try putting the race edits above your NPC overhaul so that there is no pebble face glitches but this simply means the NPC's that are overhauled will not get any of the race edits. Also yes, load order would help immensely, as well as some specific NPCs that have the problem. Now I can never just enjoy the dam game I always fall into a hole of endless modding lol. No need to wait now and hope for updates to old patches, I made patches for bijin and pandorable myself. Messed around with other mods. I specified Bijin because people very often set up Bijin AIO incorrectly. Because I have only Pandorable's NPC's and the Bijin Series I just deactivated Bijin Warmaidens (In which Aela is included). If you're using the SV version, then you also need Seranaholic and Valerica. It will try to use the original FaceGen meshes that are contained in the vanilla BSAs, and since they don't match Bijin, boom. I have met black face problem,can you update a low texture version? After doing exporting with Kallies NPC overhaul, this is the result: Log in to view your list of favourite games. Halgari joins Nexus Mods to help shape the future of Vortex. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Site news (important news will be issued), Comments on your files, images and videos, New images and videos added to your files. Black Face Bug with Pandorable's NPC and Bijin Series. Change the first two numbers to 00 and add ".NIF". Every single one. I have also checked for conflicts and found none. In the Data tab, navigate to: 01A696.NIF. Any time I use any NPC face replacer, I get black face. Did you start a new game or did you install the mod during a playthrough? Thank God I found your guide. And since you're using multiple patches for these overhauls, it couldn't hurt to load your mods into xedit to make sure that the characters whose overhauls you want to use aren't being overwritten. Her BaseID is 0001A696. Page 2 of 4 - Pandorable NPCs Merged All-In-One Plugin - posted in File topics: In response to post #78547308. However, it can be explained. You may need to expand each folder as you go down. What can I do next? Copyright 2022 Robin Scott. Actors > Actor > Actor name or i.d. So I'm currently making some patches for HiPoly versions of the Bijin mods, and I just wanted to clarify whether I need to do anything if xEdit says there's no overwritten files for a specific NPC? You then should get another message saying "Done" I've tried everything - clearing conflicts in SSEdit, Refreshing every NPC in the game/mod with F4 on Creation kit, placing all the NPC overhauls at the bottom of the left panel on MO2, removing ALL mods aside from the ones used to change faces. Since she's part of base Skyrim, her NPC record is found in Skyrim.esm. Edit: Alright, I did some experimenting. Page 2 of 2 - Black Face When Using Any NPC Replacer in SSE - posted in Skyrim Mod Troubleshooting: Yeah, I am profoundly confused. NPC appearance problems, dark face and neck gap are so common, especially when we started to install multiple NPC appearance mods Over 250+ fully voiced NPCs, 25+ followers, 15+ marriage NPCs, and 50+ quests - posted in Skyrim Special Edition Mod Troubleshooting : I am having a issue with the Warmadiens having Blackface after I have. Pandarables NPCs were supposed to 100% compatible with Bijin Mods Family. Ayo idk what im doing and im using vortex and i dont get it could you explain wtf i need to do to get this to work?? I'll try cleaning it to see if that works, I guess. Some will be beautiful, others will look plain but still greatly improved from their vanilla look. Cleaning does nothing. That's why I suggested checking the Data tab. What do you mean "after doing exporting" with Kallies NPCs? *FIX* I simply installed this https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/42441and it helped :) (This helps with black face bug but does not apply bijin mod to some so just do that if you are super lazy xD) *Better* make sure Installation order is the same as the load order :), New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/42441. Then Verify your files through steam.. https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=Dark_Face_Bug The dark face bug, gray face bug or black face bug is a bug that happens to actors when their appearance is edited by the Creation Kit. It's an extremely common problem. Now after playing for a few hours I've encountered some black faces. There aren't any activated below it that would change Ysolda's face. On that note, make sure that "Show only conflicts" isn't checked. Have you tried with say, just Bijin Warmaidens SE? Also, is your Skyrim Special Edition main folder clean? e.g. There are only two things, that can cause black face issue (most common problem with NPCs overhauls) - ESP conflict and wrong load order. All rights reserved. The basic problem that sucks so much lies in DDS msn . Bijin is the only one that's lowest in my load order. I am fairly new to modding and have just finished modding my Game. For Serana's plugin, I chose long hair, light makeup, fangs with eye glow, and default eye color. If a new NPC is created or the face of an existing one is edited, then the bug is introduced into the mod. Press J to jump to the feed. Select yes. Custom voiced female companions mods that don't make they FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP Update - MultiThreading and WIND! So to fix it I looked which mod could be responsible for that. The guide is excellent, thank you for sharing. I've found that once you have more than a few dozen plugins it can do more harm than good, like in this exact situation. Yeah, I am profoundly confused. But looking at the folders outside of MO2, I found that all of the actors files were adjusted in the way you suggested. Thank you very much! If it's not there, then make sure that Bijin Warmaidens is enabled on the. Anytime I use the CK export feature it either just reverts it to vanilla face with the proper hair or black face. Just keep that in mind. Or maybe you accidentally installed the Oldrim versions (actually, I'm not sure if this would do it). Also, check your Overwrites folder to see if any were placed there. You may need to expand each folder as you go down. Uhhh not even sure what that would accomplish given that I'm literally loading these with no other mods installed. What does it look like if you use the original files? What ESPs are below it? Thanks, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Welcome to /r/SkyrimMods! it was a guide like this that got me started into modding. Both are really easy to fix. Here's what I learned. My load order: https://modwat.ch/u/pecbounce/plugins. I tell him it's time to part ways, he says bye . This mod is lightweight and uses the skin and body mods you have installed. If you can't find the FaceGen meshes in the Data tab, then either they're not working or you're looking in the wrong place. You should get a small window popup saying do you want to generate facegen for this character? Dawnguard.esm. Not sure what other method I could use for this. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It's useful for detecting conflicts with known solutions, and it might spit out a load order that's at least stable, but it almost certainly won't be the IDEAL load order. I do ctrl f4 and get no export options or anything. Main NPC replacer has warpaint for Dravynea, Eisa and Voldsea. Pandorable's NCPs, Bijin, and Kalilie's NPCs are compatible. A variety of techniques are encouraged, from acting in an official capacity to wearing disguises and spying on enemy targets. The elegant, powerful, and open-source mod manager, Download and manage all your collections within Vortex, Upgrade your account to unlock all media content, To enjoy the benefits of Nexus Mods, please log in or register a new account. How am I getting black face when it's just the mod on its own with nothing else in the load order? It seems like facegen data is not loading properly for whatever reason. Ks Hairdos is player only unless it has a mod that replaces NPCs as well. I also use Bijin Skin - UNP if that could be the issue ? Is it possible that this black face occurs because of some ENB or Skyrim.ini setting I'm unaware of? Or maybe they really are there and you did Ctrl+F4 in the CK while a different ESP was active and it overwrote the Bijin meshes with bad ones. I don't get what could be causing this. This one offers multiple ways to RP by adding over 1200 lines of new dialogue options to vanilla NPCs. That's odd to me because Bijin worked for me fine without any additional mods in my LE playthrough. Look at the column to the right, and see what mod it comes from. 00002B6C.NIF, In the Data tab in the right pane of MO2, navigate down to meshes\character\FaceGenData\FaceGeom\
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